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01:10:35 PM Alaska Military Industry Strategic Plan Findings and Recommendations
03:33:58 PM Adjourn
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Alaska Military Industry Strategic Plan, Summary
Briefing of Findings & Recommendations
Presentations by Steve Hyjek, Hyjek & Fix, and
Maj. General Thomas Katkus, Adjutant General,
Alaska National Guard, and Commissioner, Dept. of
Military & Veterans' Affairs
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
                       ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                               
                    JOINT ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE                                                                            
                          Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                     
                            June 25, 2013                                                                                       
                              1:08 p.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Dan Saddler, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Senator Pete Kelly, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Representative Eric Feige - via teleconference                                                                                  
Representative Doug Isaacson                                                                                                    
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                       
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
Senator Anna Fairclough                                                                                                         
Senator John Coghill                                                                                                            
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PUBLIC MEMBERS                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Lieutenant General Tom Case - (retired) (via teleconference)                                                                    
Major General Jake Lestenkof - (retired)                                                                                        
Brigadier General George Cannelos - (retired)                                                                                   
Colonel Tim Jones - (retired) (via teleconference)                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Shelley Hughes (via teleconference)                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Alaska Military Industry Strategic Plan, Summary Briefing of                                                                    
Findings and Recommendations                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MCHUGH PIERRE, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Department of Military and Veterans Affairs (DMVA)                                                                              
Fort Richardson, Alaska                                                                                                         
POSITION   STATEMENT:  Participated   in  the   discussion  about   the                                                       
Alaska Military Industry Strategic Plan.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
STEVE HYJEK, Consultant                                                                                                         
Hyjek and Fix, Inc.                                                                                                             
Washington, D.C.                                                                                                                
POSITION   STATEMENT:   Presented    the  Alaska   Military   Industry                                                        
Strategic Plan findings and recommendations.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:08:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  DAN  SADDLER  called  the  Joint  Armed  Services  Committee                                                        
meeting  to order  at  1:08 p.m.  Present  at the  call to  order  were                                                         
Senators  Dyson,   Fairclough,  Coghill,   Wielechowski  and  Co-Chair                                                          
Kelly;   and  Representatives   Isaacson,   Lynn,   Tarr,  Feige   (via                                                         
teleconference)    and   Co-Chair    Saddler.    Public   members    in                                                         
attendance   were   Lieutenant   General   (retired)   Tom  Case   (via                                                         
teleconference),     Major   General    Jake   Lestenkof    (retired),                                                          
Brigadier   General  George   Cannelos  (retired),   and  Colonel   Tim                                                         
Jones (retired) (via teleconference).                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
^Alaska    Military    Industry    Strategic    Plan    Findings    and                                                         
Recommendations                                                                                                                 
         Alaska Military Industry Strategic Plan Findings and                                                               
                           Recommendations                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
CO-CHAIR   SADDLER   reviewed   the   history   of  the   Joint   Armed                                                         
Services  Committee   (JASC).  He stated  that  JASC  was  established                                                          
in  the  1990s  in  response  to  one  of  the  first  rounds  of  Base                                                         
Realignment   and  Closure   Commission   (BRAC).   The  committee   is                                                         
comprised  of five  Senators,  five  Representatives,  and  six public                                                          
members   with   a  mission    to  monitor   and   address   potential                                                          
realignments   of military   facilities  in  Alaska;  to advocate   for                                                         
the  National  Missile  Defense  System  in  Alaska;  to seek  ways  to                                                         
attract  new  missions  to  Alaska  bases;  and to  support  increased                                                          
joint   military    training    in   the   state.   The   mission    is                                                         
particularly   timely   as  the   country   faces  tremendous   budget                                                          
pressures  brought  about  by the  planned budget  reductions,  forced                                                          
reduction    and   strategic   reorientation    toward   the   Pacific                                                          
theatre,  the process  of  budget  sequestration,  the  possibility  of                                                         
future  BRAC  rounds,  and  the  hollowing   of  Alaska  forces  as  is                                                         
seen  with the  proposed  transfer  of  F-16s from  Eielson  Air  Force                                                         
Base (AFB) to Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson (JBER).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He   reminded   everyone   that   Alaska's   military   services    and                                                         
agencies    are   essential   for   national    defense,   for    force                                                         
protection,   for joint  training   and  preparedness,  the  stability                                                          
of  the  state's   economy,  and  the   safety  of  its  citizens.   In                                                         
recognition  of  these  facts,  the  legislature  last  year  funded  a                                                         
contract  to  hire  a  leading  national  consulting   firm  to advise                                                          
the  state  on  how to  soften  the  blow  of  reductions  and  how  to                                                         
take  advantage  of the  changing  defense  environment.  He  said  the                                                         
committee  would  hear  a presentation   from consultant   Steve  Hyjek                                                         
of Hyjek  and  Fix, Inc.  He is  joined  by McHugh  Pierre  the Deputy                                                          
Commissioner  of  the Department  of  Military  and Veterans  Affairs.                                                          
He asked  Mr.  Pierre to  provide  opening remarks  and  introduce  Mr.                                                         
Hyjek.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:10:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MCHUGH  PIERRE,  Deputy  Commissioner,   Department   of Military   and                                                         
Veterans  Affairs,  Fort  Richardson,  Alaska,  extended  regards  from                                                         
General  Katkus  who was  delivering  the  State of  the  State at  the                                                         
National  Guard  Bureau. He  relayed  that General  Katkus  is pushing                                                          
hard  to   get  an  associate   unit   with  the  KC-135s   (refueling                                                          
tankers)  at  Eielson  AFB. He  reported  that  there is  considerable                                                          
support  for  this from  the National   Guard Bureau  and  Pacific  Air                                                         
Forces  (PACAF).  Now  it is  a matter  of  gaining  support  from  the                                                         
Air Mobility  Command  (AMC).  He said  it's critical  to  get all  the                                                         
pieces  lined up  in order  to get  more manpower  at Eielson  AFB  and                                                         
then set the stage for more airplanes.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERRE  discussed the national  environment. He explained  that the                                                         
Department  of  Defense  (DOD)  is going  through  an  historic  after-                                                         
conflict  drawdown and  a 25-30 percent  reduction  in the overall  DOD                                                         
budget can  be expected. Procurement  is generally  the first to  go in                                                         
this situation and basing needs are part of the discussion.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERRE explained that the state  is exiting the contract with Hyjek                                                         
& Fix, Inc.  because of internal changes  in that company. He  said the                                                         
DMVA will  address the  new concerns  and needs  when it  issues a  new                                                         
Request for Proposal  (RFP) in July. He  opined that the state  is on a                                                         
great path forward to benefit the military community in Alaska.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERRE  introduced Mr. Hyjek  with the  explanation that he  is the                                                         
author of the report and that he  was invited to talk about what he did                                                         
working with  the DMVA,  Alaska Military  Force Advocacy  and Structure                                                         
Team  (AMFAST), and  the  Governor's Office  to  develop the  strategic                                                         
plan.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:13:12 PM                                                                                                                    
STEVE  HYJEK, Consultant,   Hyjek and  Fix, Inc.,  discussed  the  2011                                                         
Budget   Control  Act,   the  actions   of  the  congressional    super                                                         
committee,   and  the  current   situation  called   sequestration   to                                                         
help  explain  what  led to  some  of the  actions  that  are proposed                                                          
in   the  Alaska   Military    Industry   Strategic   Plan.   He   said                                                         
sequestration   sets  out  budget  ceilings  on  an  annual  basis  for                                                         
the  period  of FY13-FY21.   FY13  is a  particularly  difficult   year                                                         
because  the  DOD and  most  agencies  decided  to  operate  as though                                                          
sequestration would not occur.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:15:34 PM                                                                                                                    
He addressed  the  process  of sequestering   work. He  explained  that                                                         
the Budget  Control  Act  requires  the defense  budget  to find  $42.7                                                         
billion  in savings  between  April  1, 2013  and September  30,  2013.                                                         
Because   DOD  was  operating   as  though  sequestration   would   not                                                         
occur,  it has  to now  find a  way to  squeeze  those savings  out  of                                                         
the  last  five to  six  months  of the  fiscal  year.  It  also  means                                                         
that  all   the  defense  budgetary   resources   are  being   cut  7-8                                                         
percent.  That  has resulted  in  the grounding   of aircraft  and  the                                                         
reduction  of  training  exercises  except  for  overseas  deployment.                                                          
FY14  is also  a very  difficult  year  because "it  is the  bottom  of                                                         
the trough  as  it pertains  to cuts  between  now and the  end of  the                                                         
Budget Control Act, which is FY21."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  displayed  statistics   from  the Congressional   Research                                                          
Service  to  show  that  the  reduction  in  the  last  six  months  of                                                         
FY13  is  7.2  percent  and  the  annual  reduction   in  FY14  is  3.4                                                         
percent.  DOD  has the  ability  to plan  for  reductions  after  FY14,                                                         
which  will make  it  easier. He  said  the takeaway  message  is  that                                                         
DOD  will  take hits  on  the  order  of more  than  $40  billion  this                                                         
year.  The President's  budget  that  was submitted  to  Congress  does                                                         
not  reflect  sequestration  so  Congress  will have  to cut  the  FY14                                                         
defense   appropriation   to  $475   billion  or  sequestration    will                                                         
provide automatic cuts across the defense accounts.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:17:02 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK warned  that  while  life will  get  slightly  brighter  for                                                         
DOD and  other  agencies  after FY14,  the longer  sequestration   goes                                                         
the harder it will be to get rid of.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He  displayed  a graph  showing  the  budget  ceilings  to  illustrate                                                          
that  defense   spending  won't   be  outside  the  norm   in  the  out                                                         
years.  He  described  the  process   of  sequestration  as  difficult                                                          
but  manageable.  He  displayed  a  slide  showing  budget  trends  and                                                         
personnel   impacts   to  illustrate   that  defense   is  a  cyclical                                                          
business.  However,   DOD  and Congress   have  to be  cognizant   that                                                         
they  have to  provide  sufficient  flexibility   for the  future.  Mr.                                                         
Hyjek  said those  are some  of the  arguments  for supporting  Alaska                                                          
military  installations.   He  clarified   that  the  numbers  include                                                          
modernization,    operations    and    maintenance,    infrastructure,                                                          
personnel,  and  healthcare  costs.  Overseas  contingency  operations                                                          
are also included.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  displayed   a  slide  to  give  an  idea  of  the  various                                                          
elements  that  the  Department  of  Defense  can  cut,  and  how  they                                                         
will  likely  occur.   He  emphasized  that   modernization   gets  cut                                                         
first,  because  it  is  the largest   account  in  terms  of funding.                                                          
However,   the   largest   savings   comes  from   cutting   personnel                                                          
because  that saves  money  into the  out years.  There  are structure                                                          
reductions today and more program cuts will come in the future.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:21:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK  reviewed  the places  that  DOD  can  cut: base  closures,                                                          
reduce  force structure,   cancel weapons  systems,  close  contractor                                                          
operated towers, cut food inspectors.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He  said  the  administration  characterized   sequestration   as  "the                                                         
sky  is  falling"  but  that hasn't   happened.  What  occurs  is  that                                                         
Congress  now  has  the ability  to  say  the dire  consequences   that                                                         
were  promised  didn't   occur,  so  there  is  no reason   to believe                                                          
that  some  of  the  other  dire  consequences   that  were  projected                                                          
will actually happen.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He  discussed  the flight  reductions   for operational   and training                                                          
aircraft.    There   are   significant    reductions    in   terms   of                                                         
operations  and  maintenance,   which  is taking   care of  facilities                                                          
and  training.   In  Alaska  that   means  impacts  to  the  Red   Flag                                                         
exercises.  He  said two  issues  arise  when training   doesn't  occur                                                         
on   a  regular    cycle.   The  ability    to  deploy    quickly   and                                                         
efficiently   is impacted,   and  there  is a  3-6  month  lag  to  get                                                         
back  to  the readiness   ratings  a  field  commander  would  want  to                                                         
have.  He  highlighted   that  DOD   is  looking  at  a  $1.2  billion                                                          
defense  cut  in  terms  of  spending,  well  over  130,000  personnel                                                          
reduction, and a zero percent reduction in infrastructure.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:24:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK  stated that  the  Air  Force and  Army  are big  presences                                                          
in Alaska  and  they are  the biggest  drivers  behind the  desire  for                                                         
a BRAC  within  the  administration.  The  Air Force  is  big business                                                          
in Alaska.  It  has a lot  of assets  and it  takes a lot  of money  to                                                         
manage  the many  moving  parts.  He said  they have  to  find ways  to                                                         
be  more  efficient  and  cut  the  cost  of  running  their  physical                                                          
plant.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He   credited   the   Air   Force   with   looking   beyond   physical                                                          
encroachments   to things  like  spectrum  encroachment,   waste  water                                                         
treatment,   and   other   impacts.   Sixteen    areas  of   potential                                                          
encroachment    have  been   identified    in  what   is   called   the                                                         
Installation    Complex   Encroachment    Management    Action    Plans                                                         
(ICEMAP).  He  noted  that the  Air  Force is  about  a year  ahead  of                                                         
the  Army in  this area  but the  Army  is looking  to  replicate  this                                                         
capability.   He  noted  that  at  this  point  there  are   no ICEMAP                                                          
plans for Alaska.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:26:59 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE   ISAACSON   asked   how  the  Joint   Land  Use   Study                                                         
(JLUS)   in  the  Fairbanks   North   Star  Borough   supplements   the                                                         
efforts to save Eielson AFB.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  replied   that  JLUS  is  for  both  Army  and  Air   Force                                                         
installations.    The   Army   has   a   program   called    the   Army                                                         
Compatibility  Use  Buffer  (ACUB) program  that  allows  them to  look                                                         
at  how  to  manage  potential   future  encroachment.   The  JLUS  for                                                         
Eielson  AFB provides  the  baseline  to be able  to ensure  there  are                                                         
no  physical  airspace   encroachments  today.   JLUS  will  not  cover                                                         
the  new full  spectrum  items  that  are part  of  ICEMAP,  but it  is                                                         
an  important   foundation   for  managing   encroachments   into   the                                                         
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ISAACSON  asked  if that  supports  the  argument  for                                                         
keeping Eielson AFB.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK replied  it's  a plus  without  a doubt,  but  it isn't  the                                                         
key.    The   Air   Force    is   looking    for    ways   to   create                                                          
intergovernmental   partnerships   that  benefit  both  the  community                                                          
and the  installation.  The  Air Force  is basically  asking  what  the                                                         
community  can  do to  help  it stay  the  community  because  it  will                                                         
be mutually beneficial.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:29:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK said  the  Air Force  has begun  tabletop  exercises  at  15                                                         
installations.   Part  of  the  discussion   with  the  Air  Force  two                                                         
weeks  ago was  to  make sure  that  Alaska  is on  the  FY14 tabletop                                                          
manifest.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PIERRE  added   that  the  Air  Force  hasn't  said  that  Alaska                                                          
needs  that  as  a  gateway  and  it  is  well  ahead   of what   would                                                         
normally  be done  for a  tabletop  exercise,  but to help  out it  can                                                         
do  the tabletop  with  Alaska.  If  Alaska  continues  to  move  along                                                         
without  needing  the  exercise,  he  said  the state  will  implement                                                          
shared   services   in  coordination   with   the  borough   with   the                                                         
borough  in the  lead.  That can  be moved  from  the Fairbanks   North                                                         
Star  Borough  to  the  Municipality  of  Anchorage   to allow  shared                                                          
services  to  work   there  as  well.  Shared  service   can  help  all                                                         
regions  of  the   state  that  have  military   facilities   and  save                                                         
costs for both entities.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER   asked  for  examples  of  the  kinds  of  services                                                          
that are shared with communities.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:31:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK displayed  a  list of  the  shared services  the  Air  Force                                                         
is  evaluating  within  the  tabletop  exercises.  He  noted  that  one                                                         
that  isn't  on  the  list  but is  worth  looking   at is  commissary                                                          
services  in  Class  VI (liqueur)   stores.  The  question  is whether                                                          
that's  a  government  function  that  needs  to  be  retained  by  the                                                         
government;  is  that  a way  to  create  benefits  to the  community,                                                          
the  installation  and  the  military  community  including  retirees.                                                          
He  noted  that  the  Air   Force  has  said  that  the  state's   only                                                         
constraint  is  the ideas  it comes  up  with. The  Air Force  is  just                                                         
beginning  to release  a  public policy  letter  and the  Secretary  of                                                         
the  Army indicated   she would  issue  a policy  letter  in  the  next                                                         
few  weeks.  They  hope to  have  guidelines  for  Army  installations                                                          
by the end of the year.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  said  the  point  of  spending   so much   time  on shared                                                          
services  is  to emphasize   that the  state  needs  to be  proactive,                                                          
because   DOD   is   looking   for   partnerships    in  this   budget                                                          
constrained   environment.  The  more  the  state  is intertwined   and                                                         
in  mutually  beneficial  partnerships,   the  harder  it will  be  for                                                         
DOD to walk away.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER   recognized  that  Representative   Shelley  Hughes                                                          
was online.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HYJEK  displayed  a slide  from  Assistant  Secretary  of the  Army                                                         
Katherine  Hammack's   presentation  at  the  Association   of Defense                                                          
Communities.  It  illustrates  the  dramatic  drop  in base  operation                                                          
support   costs.  He  noted   that  the  numbers   are  based   on  the                                                         
President's   budget  request  before   the  $45  billion  cut  so  the                                                         
number will get even smaller.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER asked what the acronym stands for.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. HYJEK  explained  that  BOS stands  for  base operations  support,                                                          
MILCON   stands   for   military    construction,    O&M   stands   for                                                         
operations    and   maintenance,    SRN   stands    for   sustainment,                                                          
restoration  and  modernization  (minor  military  construction),   and                                                         
FP stands for family programs.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   DYSON   asked   which  category   acquisition    of  weapons                                                          
systems would fall under.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.   HYJEK   clarified   that   he   was   only   showing   the   Army                                                         
installations portion of the budget.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He  displayed  a  slide  from  Ms. Hammack   that shows  the  cyclical                                                          
nature  of  Army  end  strength.  He  acknowledged   the  announcement                                                          
today  that as  part of  their force  structure  adjustment,  the  Army                                                         
would  reduce  their end  strength  by  72,000 people  by  2019,  which                                                         
has an  Alaska  impact. He  said the  Army and  Air Force  desperately                                                          
need  BRAC,  but  the  problem  is  that  BRAC  2005  was very  poorly                                                          
executed. It was not a cost saving.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Hyjek  said  he  is  not  advocating  BRAC,   but  the  Air  Force                                                         
Force  Structure  Adjustments   hit  Eielson  AFB  last  year  and  the                                                         
Army  force   structure   adjustment   has  some   impacts  in  Alaska                                                          
today.  The Air  Force  has already  indicated  that  if  a BRAC  isn't                                                         
authorized   for  2015,   there  will   be  another   force  structure                                                          
adjustment  released   in February   2014  as part  of  the  Air  Force                                                         
FY15  budget   process.  That  raises   the  question  of  whether   to                                                         
operate  with the  risks  and benefits  and process  that  is open  and                                                         
transparent   and  has   an  independent   review,   or  leave   it  to                                                         
unelected  officials   in  the  DOD  to decide   where  to  make  cuts,                                                         
where   to  starve   installation   budgets,   and  where   to  reduce                                                          
personnel   or take  missions   away.  The  latter  choice   leaves  no                                                         
other  course or  alternative  but  for Congress  to block  the entire                                                          
force structure adjustment, and that is unlikely to happen.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:36:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK  said  he  is  making  no  recommendations   but  there  are                                                         
certainly   two  sides  to  the  coin  that's  the  BRAC  process.   He                                                         
directed   attention  to  a  slide  that   articulates  the   need  for                                                         
BRACs from the perspective of the Air Force.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:36:43 PM                                                                                                                    
GENERAL  LESTENKOF  asked  if  there  were any  savings  for  the  Army                                                         
or Air Force as a result of joint basing.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  replied  that  the anecdotal   information  is  that  there                                                         
hasn't  been  a  significant   savings,  but  the  belief  is  that  it                                                         
will  ultimately  lead to  cost savings.  Similarly,  there's  still  a                                                         
belief  that  there  will  eventually   be  significant  savings   from                                                         
BRAC 2005.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PIERRE  added  that local  reports  indicate  there  has  been  an                                                         
increase  in  costs  at  JBER.  The  reason  is  that  the  individual                                                          
installations   at  both  Fort  Richardson  and  Elmendorf   Air  Force                                                         
Base  had  much  lower   than  required   base  operating  costs.   The                                                         
requirements   that   were   identified   during   the   joint  basing                                                          
process   increased  the   overall  budget   of  the  joint  base   but                                                         
through the sequestration process the costs have come back down.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:38:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK  described  the  strategic  plan  that  Hyjek  &  Fix,  Inc.                                                         
developed  in  conjunction   with  the  Alaska Military  Force Advocacy                                                         
and  Structure Team  (AMFAST) group.  He  noted that  the AMFAST  group                                                         
reviewed  and approved  the items  in the  presentation. He  reiterated                                                         
that  the  Budget  Control   Act  reductions  particularly  constrained                                                         
personnel   costs   modernization     costs,   and    operations    and                                                         
maintenance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  addressed   force  structure  adjustments.   He  explained                                                          
that  last year  when the  Air Force  released  their  force structure                                                          
adjustment   proposal  it  was  met  with  significant  resistance   by                                                         
Congress.  The  Army learned  a  lesson  from that  and when  they  did                                                         
their  force  structure  adjustment  they  developed  a  process.  They                                                         
went  through  the  Programmatic   Environmental   Assessment  process                                                          
and  identified   21  installations   and  the  effect  of  losing   or                                                         
gaining   personnel,   including   the  economic   impact.   Listening                                                          
sessions  were  held  in  each  location  and  the  public  and public                                                          
officials   came  in  for  comment.   He  noted  that  the  Air   Force                                                         
learned   from  that   and  will  be   using  the   same  process   for                                                         
preparations for next year.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK described   the information   that he  received  today  that                                                         
is  very positive   overall  for Alaska.   Fort Wainwright   will  gain                                                         
approximately   552 people,  the  4th  Brigade  and  the  25th Brigade                                                          
will  gain an  enhanced  engineer and  mission  command  elements,  and                                                         
Fort  Richardson  will  lose  approximately   894  military  personnel                                                          
spaces.  Although   Alaska  will  lose  about  345  personnel  spaces,                                                          
the  average  loss  in states  that  have  military  installations   is                                                         
1,500.   This  validates   the   points   about  Alaska's   tremendous                                                          
training   environment,    its   current   infrastructure,    and   its                                                         
strategic location.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Alaska  has done  a good  job of  holding  its own,  but it  has to  be                                                         
prepared for what comes next.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER  asked  if  those  decisions  are  "done  deals"  for                                                         
which there is no appeal.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  replied  the final  decisions   were  announced  today  and                                                         
there  will be  a press  release  tomorrow.  Absent  legislation   from                                                         
the U.S. Congress, there will be no changes.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER  thanked  members  of  the committee  and  others  in                                                         
the  state that  took  part in  the comments  on  the "Defend  Alaska"                                                          
position. It's a good example of how it works to pull together.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:42:40 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE   ISAACSON  directed  attention   to  the two  handouts                                                          
he  distributed   thanks   to  the   Tiger  Team  and   the  Fairbanks                                                          
Economic  Development  Corporation.   He  said the  Air  Force already                                                          
has their  Strategic  Basing  Process  and it  doesn't appear  to  have                                                         
been   followed   at   all  so   the   document   is  convoluted    and                                                         
contradictory  to  known facts.  He  asked if  that might  be a leg  to                                                         
stand on in this battle.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:44:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PIERRE  asked  for  clarification   about  the  document   he  was                                                         
referencing.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MY.  HYJEK   said  he  wasn't   defending  the   Air  Force,  but   the                                                         
strategic  basing  plan  is a  process  that's used  for  new missions                                                          
versus  force  structure  adjustments.   The  latter  are  the ability                                                          
to  move manpower  or  equipment  that  is  not subject  to  either  10                                                         
USC  2687, which  is the  BRAC  law or  10 USC  993, which  constrains                                                          
the realignment   of installations.   The Air  Force Strategic  Basing                                                          
Process  is  primarily  designed  for  purposes  evaluating   bases  to                                                         
come  up  with   a  preferred   alternative.   He  said  his  personal                                                          
experience  is  that  the process  has  sometimes  recommended  course                                                          
A  and  the Air  Force  has  selected   course  B, because   the  trump                                                         
card  in  all  these   actions  is  military   judgment.  If  military                                                          
judgment  supersedes  the  strategic  basing  analysis,  that  will  be                                                         
the  deciding   factor  by   Air  Force  leadership.   The  Air   Force                                                         
describes this as a defendable, transparent, repeatable process.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:46:06 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE     ISAACSON    summarized    that    the    state    is                                                         
misinterpreting   the strategic   basing  process  application  to  the                                                         
F-16  move even  though the  Air Force  is looking  for  a home for  F-                                                         
16s                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. HYJEK  said  correct.  If it's  a mission  that is  already there,                                                          
what's  being   done  is  an  internal  force  structure   operational                                                          
cost  analysis.   Separately,   Pacific  Air   Force  (PACAF)  General                                                          
Carlisle  is  doing  a strategic   assessment  within  his  command  of                                                         
Eielson  AFB  and how  it fits  into  the  Air Force  for  the future.                                                          
He  clarified   that  is  a  command   review  and  not  part   of  the                                                         
strategic basing process.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ISAACSON   said  his  testimony   to  the  Air   Force                                                         
information  seeking   group was  that  the  SATAF came  at  the  wrong                                                         
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK explained  that  SATAF  is a  group of  Air  Force officers                                                          
that  are  tasked  with  finding  out  how  to  execute  a  basic  plan                                                         
that  has  been  provided  to  them.  In the  case  of  Representative                                                          
Isaacson's   testimony   before   SATAF,   the   Air  Force   made   an                                                         
internal  analysis  that  resulted   in the  force  structure  process                                                          
announced   in  March   2012  for  FY13,   which  included   the   18th                                                         
Aggressor  Squadron   move  from  Eielson  AFB.  As  a  result  of  the                                                         
announcement,   the Air  Force  has  to have  an  implementation   plan                                                         
to  execute  the  movement  that  was  part  of  the  force  structure                                                          
process.   To  develop  the   Plan,  a  Site  Activation   Task   Force                                                         
(SATF)  is  sent  out and  their  defined  mission  is  to  figure  out                                                         
how  to  execute   the  answer.   They  went   out  of  the  norm   for                                                         
purposes   of  the  18th  Aggressor   SATF  because  of  the  concerns                                                          
expressed    by  the   community,    the   state,   and   the   Alaska                                                          
delegation.   Normally  they  wouldn't  take  public  testimony  for  a                                                         
SATF  because  it's  an internal  review.  This  was  an  exception  to                                                         
the  rule   because  of   the  contentiousness   of   this  particular                                                          
action.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He  reiterated  that the  foregoing  is  separate  from  the Strategic                                                          
Basing  Process,  which is  also an  internal  Air Force  process  done                                                         
at Air  Force  headquarters  with  input  from the  bases  and various                                                          
major commands.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:48:44 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE   ISAACSON   asked  if  the  validity   of  the  EIS  is                                                         
compromised if it's basically the same document as the SATF.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  discussed   the  basic  difference   between   an  EIS  and                                                         
SATF.  He explained   that the  EIS  has a  public  process  where  new                                                         
input  is taken  and if  that is substantial   and shows  there's  been                                                         
a   clear   deviation    from   fact   leading    to   the   preferred                                                          
alternative,   the  Air  Force  would   be  compelled  to  modify   the                                                         
preferred  alternative   in their  final  EIS. The  SATF  doesn't  need                                                         
public  input;  it  basically  identifies  the  end  point and  how  to                                                         
get there.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ISAACSON  expressed  frustration  that  none  of  that                                                         
is  reflected   in   the  document,   and   relief  that   all  public                                                          
communication has to be included in the final EIS.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:52:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HYJEK  highlighted  that  not every  record  of decision  reflects                                                          
the  preferred  alternative.   He  cited  an  example  and  emphasized                                                          
that  those who  have concerns  must  put together  solid,  fact-based                                                          
data and substantiated arguments to show the flaws in an EIS.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  discussed  the  Strategic  Plan  Development.   He relayed                                                          
that  the process  included  gathering  input  from multiple  database                                                          
resources  such  as  DOD budget  materials,   lessons  from  BRAC  2005                                                         
and  subsequent   Force  Structure  analyses,   and  information   from                                                         
Alaska   installations   and   their  surrounding   communities.    The                                                         
participants  in  the analysis  included:  the  Alaska  installations,                                                          
AMFAST,   ADMVA,  DOD,  the  Alaska   Congressional   Delegation,   the                                                         
State  of Alaska  and  its consultant.   The objective  is  to protect                                                          
what  Alaska  has  and  look  for  opportunities  to  expand.  Efforts                                                          
were focused on partnering with DOD on shared services.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He  highlighted  that  this  version  of  the  presentation   has  been                                                         
sanitized  to  a  certain  extent   to protect   against  out-of-state                                                          
competitors.   A more  detailed  document   is available   for review,                                                          
but not in a committee hearing.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:56:33 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HYJEK  said  that overall  the  Strategic  Plan stresses  Alaska's                                                          
strategic  location   and  unencumbered   training  space.  This  is  a                                                         
military  friendly  state  whose  military  defense  role  is growing.                                                          
Alaska  has  good  will  and that  translates   to  real advantage   in                                                         
times  of constrained   budgets.  That  message  has  to be  taken  out                                                         
to  the major  commands  that  oversee  the  installations   in Alaska                                                          
as well as the DOD.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He  discussed  the  prospect  of  expanding   training  for  U.S.  Army                                                         
units  from the  Lower 48.  Prepositioning  equipment  in  Alaska  will                                                         
make  it   easier  and   more  likely   to  attract   interest  versus                                                          
hauling all the equipment themselves at huge cost.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ISAACSON asked for specifics.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HYJEK  replied  that  the forces  are being  drawn down  by 72,000                                                          
people  and  some of  the  equipment  those  people  used  will remain                                                          
in Alaska.  Also,  the  U.S. Army  Pacific  and  PACOM are  looking  at                                                         
prepositioning   stores  in  either  Hawaii  or  Alaska.  Part  of  the                                                         
Strategic  Plan  is  to  help  define  what  the  package   would  look                                                         
like  and  identify  where   to  secure  those  assets.  Further,   the                                                         
Alaska  delegation  can  help convince   the Army  leadership  to  help                                                         
provide  the tools  to help  others  to come  here and  train, because                                                          
it's a cost savings.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    ISAACSON   asked   if  the   legislature   needs   to                                                         
appropriate funds to build storage structures.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:01:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK replied  that's  a measure  of  good  faith that  the  state                                                         
should  consider,   but  it's  a  question   of  risk  management   and                                                         
whether it's putting the cart before the horse.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    ISAACSON   questioned   whether   Alaska   might   be                                                         
behind  the power  ball,  because  some  states,  like Louisiana,   are                                                         
already building in hope of the mission.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERRE  said  that is  the point  he and  Mr. Hyjek  are trying  to                                                         
make;  is  that  other  states  are  doing   it and  Alaska   needs  to                                                         
figure  out   how  to  compete.  What   Alaska  has  to  offer  that's                                                          
better  than  any other  state  is training  space.  The  next step  is                                                         
to  identify  how much  to spend  and  where  to spend  it  to get  the                                                         
best bang for the buck.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ISAACSON  added that  the  key might  be  to identify                                                          
the amount of prepositioned equipment.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  suggested  the  target  should  be  a battalion   size.  He                                                         
reiterated   that the  more  the  state  steps  up  to  the  plate  and                                                         
makes an offer, the more difficult it will be for DOD to say no.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Returning  to the  presentation,  Mr.  Hyjek said  there  is some  hope                                                         
that  there will  be some  positive  movement  involving  F-35 actions                                                          
that  could impact  the  state.  He opined  that  Alaska  is very  well                                                         
positioned  for  purposes  of Outside  the Continental   United States                                                          
(OCONUS) basing.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  discussed  the  importance  of  the  U.S.  Coast  Guard  to                                                         
Alaska.  He  relayed   that  Rear  Admiral  Underwood   has  been  very                                                         
active  working  with the  AMFAST  team and  the  state on  what to  do                                                         
to  support the  Coast  Guard  including  modernization  of  the  light                                                         
combat  rescue  helicopter.   He  noted  that  Mr.  Pierre   has  plans                                                         
regarding Coast Guard leadership visiting the state.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PIERRE   mentioned   the  legislature's   support   that  allowed                                                          
AIDEA  to lend  to federal  entities.   In particular,  a  building  is                                                         
under   construction   on   Joint   Base  Elmendorf   Richardson    for                                                         
Anchorage  Sector  to  be co-located  with  ADMVA.  This  will provide                                                          
Alaska  with  the  search  and  response  nexus  that  no  other  state                                                         
has.  He relayed  that  he would  accompany  Secretary   Napolitano  on                                                         
a tour  of  the facility  and  would also  promote  adding  a squadron                                                          
of  C-27J   Spartan  aircraft   on  JBER  or  Eielson   AFB.  Existing                                                          
infrastructure   could  be  utilized  and  allow  the  Coast  Guard  to                                                         
patrol  the  Arctic  while  keeping  the C-130s  in  Kodiak  to police                                                          
the  biomass.  He noted  that  the  Coast  Guard,  thankfully,  is  not                                                         
under the same budget cuts.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:06:28 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   HYJEK   discussed   the   priority   actions   that   have   been                                                         
identified   for  purposes  of  the  Strategic   Plan.  He  identified                                                          
energy  cost reductions  to  the DOD  in Alaska  as a  priority action                                                          
item  for  maintaining  Alaska's  bases  and  military  missions  in  a                                                         
constrained   budgetary   environment.    A  long-term   solution   may                                                         
require  the  state to  execute  a strategy  for  conversion  of  coal-                                                         
based  energy  generation  in northern   Alaska to  natural  gas  based                                                         
power  generation   to  address   military,  community   and  economic                                                          
development   needs for  lower  life-cycle   utility  costs.  He  asked                                                         
Mr.  Pierre to  talk  about a  recent  conversation  with  Mr. Bridges                                                          
on the  issue  of energy  and  the potential  for  the use  of natural                                                          
gas for power generation versus coal.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:07:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. PIERRE  stated  that  the discussion  centered  on  the antiquated                                                          
power  plant  at  Eielson   AFB.  The  1950s  era  boilers   are  being                                                         
replaced  slowly,  but not  quickly  enough to  benefit  the community                                                          
and  air quality.   One solution   is for  the  state  to step  in  and                                                         
replace  the  boilers  and  send energy  down  to  Fairbanks.  It  will                                                         
help  the air  quality  in Fairbanks  if  the energy  is  generated  at                                                         
Eielson  AFB, and  at some  time in  the future  the boilers  could  be                                                         
upgraded  to  burn  natural  gas. He  noted  that  every  four boilers                                                          
would be replaced with three new ones.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK addressed   the action  item  to develop  state,  community                                                          
and   industry    partnerships    that    cut   costs    to   military                                                          
installations   in  Alaska.  He  described   the  Patriot  Power   plan                                                         
that  the  New  York  Legislature   implemented   in 2005  to  provide                                                          
military   installations    an  economic   development    rate,   which                                                         
resulted  in reduced  base  operation  support  costs for  natural  gas                                                         
and electricity by 10-15 percent.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH   asked  if  Eielson   AFB  would  be  allowed   to                                                         
upgrade   its  boilers   to  a  new   coal-fired  plant   without   new                                                         
permitting  when  the University  of  Alaska  Fairbanks  is facing  the                                                         
same  antiquated   infrastructure   problems  with  no  easy  solution                                                          
being offered.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PIERRE  replied   that  the  new  boilers  at  Eielson   AFB  were                                                         
already  permitted,  and  he didn't  know  how  that intersected   with                                                         
the  issues UAF  is  facing. He  spoke  of the  challenges  associated                                                          
with  using coal  and the  importance  of getting  natural  gas to  the                                                         
area.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH   asked  if  replacement   boilers   were  so  much                                                         
more efficient that only three would be needed rather than four.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERRE  agreed  the new  boilers  are more  efficient  and provide                                                          
more power.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH   asked  if  he   was  proposing  that  the   state                                                         
invest  in  gas generation   plants  so that  communities   could  have                                                         
better   air  quality.  She   also  asked  if   gas  plants  are   more                                                         
expensive.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERRE  explained  that  natural  gas is  more expensive  but  with                                                         
the  additional  filtration  costs  associated  with  burning  coal  it                                                         
would  be cheaper  overall  to operate  natural  gas plants.  He  added                                                         
that  he and others  have  emphasized  to the  Pentagon  that there  is                                                         
no way  the  state can  invest  in physical  infrastructure   if  there                                                         
isn't  an active  duty  mission  at  the  base. He  acknowledged   that                                                         
further discussions and cost analysis was warranted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:14:15 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE   TARR asked  if  the recent  work  at JBER  related  to                                                         
power  generation   and consolidation   was  an  example  of  a shared                                                          
services agreement.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.   PIERRE   said   no,   but  it   is   an  agreement    where   the                                                         
Municipality  of  Anchorage  is using  the land  for the  landfill  and                                                         
the  base  has  taken  a  green  energy   initiative  to  harvest   the                                                         
natural   gas  that's   developed   by  the  landfill.   It's  been   a                                                         
success;  costs   have  been  reduced  and  power  production   in  the                                                         
first  year   is  far  more  than  projected.   He  relayed  that   Mr.                                                         
Bridges   is  very  concerned   and  involved   in  the  Alaska   power                                                         
situation.   He  was  eager  to  see  the   Eielson  AFB  power   plant                                                         
modernized.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  pointed  out that  Mr.  Bridges  is the  deputy  assistant                                                          
secretary  for  installations,  and  he sits  on the basing  committee                                                          
that  looks at  new missions  for installations.   He also  has a  role                                                         
with  regard to  the 18th  Aggressor  Squadron  EIS. The  fact that  he                                                         
was  engaged  on the  power  plant  replacement  is  an attribute   for                                                         
consideration, he said.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:16:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH   asked  if  there   is  a  breakdown  on  overall                                                          
costs for prepositioning assets.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PIERRE  answered  no;  this  is  the idea  stage.  Going  forward                                                          
with  it will  be necessary  to  identify  the cost  of each  idea  and                                                         
what the investment will return.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH  asked  if there  is  a power  share  agreement  or                                                         
some ability to actually lower utility costs for Fairbanks.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PIERRE said  there  is an  agreement  where  GVEA can  buy excess                                                          
power  and  that  might  have  to  be  developed  further   under  some                                                         
type of shared services plan.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   FAIRCLOUGH  suggested   that   if  the  state  is  going   to                                                         
invest  and  it lowers  the  cost of  a kilowatt   of power,  then  the                                                         
people  in the  adjacent  community  should  be able  to  receive  that                                                         
cost  benefit   versus  a  non-profit   or  a  for-profit   electrical                                                          
utility.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PIERRE  said  that  was the  number  one  concern  when  the  idea                                                         
first  came up,  and  the decision  was  that it  wouldn't  be prudent                                                          
to propose the idea if the community didn't benefit as well.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   SADDLER  relayed  that   General  Hoog  was  working   on  a                                                         
jurisdictional   task force  that is  addressing  the same  questions.                                                          
He asked public member Colonel Jones if he had any comments.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:19:47 PM                                                                                                                    
COLONEL  JONES said  he wasn't  aware  of any  agreement  in place  for                                                         
the  military  to  sell  excess  power  to the  civilian   market,  but                                                         
some  sort  of agreement  could  probably  be  worked  out.  He agreed                                                          
that  energy   is  a   major  cost   driver  for   the  high  cost   of                                                         
operations,  but  it isn't  specific  to the  military  installations.                                                          
He  pointed  out  that  the  high  cost  of  energy  in  the  Interior                                                          
drives  the higher  costs  for  everything  so  reducing  that overall                                                          
cost is what will impact the cost of base services.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:21:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK  addressed   the  action   item  to  promote  awareness   of                                                         
Alaska's  strategic  and  operational  value.  He recommended  a  high-                                                         
level  state   delegation   of  legislators,   local   officials,   and                                                         
others  go to PACAF  and  the Pentagon  to meet  with senior  Army  and                                                         
Air  Force officials   and the  Office  of the  Secretary  of Defense.                                                          
He emphasized   the importance  of  going to  these meetings  prepared                                                          
with  clear  objectives  and  credible   knowledge  of  the  issues  to                                                         
show  that  the state  is  proactive  and  prepared  to take  whatever                                                          
action is necessary.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He  acknowledged  that  it  would  cost  money,  but  as  part  of  the                                                         
strategic   plan   he   would   suggest   having   a   well-recognized                                                          
organization   like   the  Center  of   Strategic  and   International                                                          
Studies  (CSIS)  do  a paper  that  is specific   about the  strategic                                                          
location  of  Alaska  to  project   power  quickly  east  and  west  to                                                         
Europe  and the  Pacific  Rim. That  can  be used  as a  cost analysis                                                          
for  doing business  from  Alaska  versus  any location  in  the  Lower                                                         
48.  He noted  that  Dr.  John  Hamre  heads  CSIS and  is  the former                                                          
Deputy Secretary of Defense.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER  asked  if a  cost analysis   of Alaska's  strategic                                                          
location  would  be  seen  by  the  Pentagon  as  a  credible  counter                                                          
argument.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK opined  that  it  would  help; while  it  may not  have  the                                                         
level  of  detail   that  DOD  uses  on  installation   analyses,   Dr.                                                         
Hamre  will  provide  very good  metrics  to  show  both the  cost  and                                                         
operational issues.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:25:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   HYJEK   addressed    the   action   item   to   strengthen    the                                                         
relationship  between  the  State of  Alaska,  ALCOM, USARAK  and  U.S.                                                         
Coast  Guard District  17.  He reiterated  that  Admiral  Underwood  is                                                         
proactive  and  very actively  engaged  working  on  the needs  of  the                                                         
U.S.  Coast  Guard  and  its  relationship  with  the  state.  General                                                          
[Vince]  Brooks,  the  PACOM  commander  who  has  just been  promoted                                                          
to a  four star  general,  will  also be  very  helpful to  Alaska  and                                                         
PACOM  drawing   together  the  relationships   and  ensuring  support                                                          
for the Army.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FEIGE asked if Vince Brooks was promoted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HYJEK answered yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  addressed  the  action   item  to leverage   opportunities                                                          
presented  by  the  U.S.  Military   Force  Structure  Adjustments   to                                                         
expand  the military  industry  in  Alaska.  He said  if  the state  is                                                         
able  to  prevail   on  the  record  of  decision  to  hold   the  18th                                                         
Aggressor  Squadron  at Eielson  Air  Force Base,  it is  important  as                                                         
part  of  the  strategy  to  be  looking  at  how  to  make  it  a  two                                                         
squadron  wing  so  it is  more  in  conformity  with  other  units  in                                                         
the  Air  Force.  If  that  effort  isn't  successful   it  will  be  a                                                         
target for the next BRAC.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He   noted   that  the   discussion    earlier   with   Representative                                                          
Isaacson  covered  the  idea of  providing  additional   equipment  for                                                         
training at Fort Wainwright.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:28:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK  addressed  the  action   item  to explore   infrastructure                                                          
improvements   needed  to  expand   search  and  rescue   capabilities                                                          
provided  by  the Alaska  National  Guard  and the  U.S.  Coast Guard.                                                          
He discussed  that  Alaska,  New York,  California,  Arizona,  Nevada,                                                          
and Florida  are  not getting  modernization   dollars for  fixed  wing                                                         
assets  or new  rotary wing  assets.  Major command  also  instilled  a                                                         
personnel  requirement   to  fill 200-300   billets  with  no funding.                                                          
He  said that  each  of  the search   and rescue  units  has  tried  to                                                         
solve  their  problems  in a stove  piped  effort,  but  he recommends                                                          
the adjunct  generals  of  each of  the states  and their  delegations                                                          
create  a  coalition  of  those  states   to be  able  as  a  group  of                                                         
members  go  to  the  Department  of  Defense  and  the  Air  Force  to                                                         
fund  the  billets  or  make  them  go  away,  and  put  these  rescue                                                          
units  on   the  roadmap  for   C-130Js  and   make  sure  the  rescue                                                          
helicopter   program   occurs.   He  further   suggested   that   those                                                         
delegations   include   members   on   all  four   defense   oversight                                                          
committees   to   include   Chair   Buck  McKeon   from   Arizona   and                                                         
minority  leader,  Senator  Reed. He  described  this as  an important                                                          
mission going forward.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  addressed  the  action  item to  enhance  quality  of  life                                                         
initiatives   for  military  service  members   living  in  Alaska.  He                                                         
said  nobody  questions   the  importance  of  this  issue,  but  in  a                                                         
constrained   budget   environment   it  is  important   to  look   for                                                         
support   from  local  communities   and  industry   or  through   non-                                                         
fiscally constrained initiatives.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:31:13 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE   TARR   mentioned   the   high  incidence   of  sexual                                                          
assault  and  asked  for specific   suggestions  to  engage  in family                                                          
support.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  replied  this   isn't  specific  to  sexual  assault,   but                                                         
there   are  interagency    working   groups   between   the  garrison                                                          
commander's  officer  and  the personnel  office  at the  installation                                                          
along  with  the  health  and  social   offices  of  local  government                                                          
that  address   a range   of issues,   particularly   in  the  area  of                                                         
behavioral  sciences.   Also,  installations   that  have  the Wounded                                                          
Warrior  transition   units  work   with  local,  public  and  private                                                          
sector  organizations   to  help  with   transitions.  He  offered   to                                                         
follow up with specific examples.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:32:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PIERRE  stated  that   sexual  assault  is  unacceptable   in  any                                                         
workplace,    and  the   DMVA   takes   it   very   seriously.    Every                                                         
allegation  is  investigated  and  the  case  is passed  to  local  law                                                         
enforcement if there is a hint of criminal activity.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He  relayed  that  the  military   has  increased  its  definition   of                                                         
sexual  assault  and  as a  result  there are  a lot  more  reports  of                                                         
crime.  Under every  circumstance,   sexual assault  is  inappropriate                                                          
and   unacceptable,   and   the   behavior   is   very   appropriately                                                          
prosecutable.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:34:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK  addressed  the  issue  of recruitment   and retention.   He                                                         
said  a top priority  for  the adjutant  general  and the  state is  to                                                         
get  an  active  association  in  place  to  support  full  manning  of                                                         
the 168th  Air  Refueling  Wing (ARW)  at Eielson  AFB.  Responding  to                                                         
a  question  from  Co-Chair  Saddler,   he clarified   that  an active                                                          
association  takes  place  at a  National  Guard  or reserve  base  and                                                         
is joined  by  a number  of  active duty  personnel.  They  are housed                                                          
in the  community  and they  co-operate  the  equipment  of that  unit.                                                         
This  is  a  vehicle  to  get  new   platforms  into  the  Guard   with                                                         
active  duty  personnel  around.  The  benefit  of  getting  an active                                                          
association    at  the   168th   would   be   more   personnel,    more                                                         
equipment,   more  ability   to  support   operational   and  training                                                          
mission  requirements,  and  it positions  for  a future  round of  KC-                                                         
46 basing that will be specifically focused on the Guard.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He  explained  that  classic  associations   like  the  176th  at  JBER                                                         
are  more common.  They  are housed  at  an active  duty  installation                                                          
and they share air craft and perform missions together.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:37:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   HYJEK   discussed   shared   services    and   the   ICEMAP.   He                                                         
emphasized  the  importance  of having  communities  actively  engaged                                                          
in identifying   specific  missions  and functions,  putting  together                                                          
the organizational   structure  to  show the  military  department  and                                                         
the  community   the  benefits   in  terms  of  efficiencies,   better                                                          
provision  of  services,  and  cost  savings.  He  said  Alaska  is  in                                                         
the  embryonic  stages   but the  start   at Eielson   AFB  shows  good                                                         
credibility.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  pointed  out  that ICEMAP  only  applies  to  the  Air  Force,  but                                                         
will apply to the Army in the future.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:38:46 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK  displayed  a  list  of  suggestions  regarding   U.S.  Army                                                         
infrastructure.   He  clarified  that   these  were  not  part  of  the                                                         
formal  agenda  approved  by AMFAST,  but  they  are tactical  issues.                                                          
He said  ways  to help  DOD save  money  is to  consider  enhanced  use                                                         
lease,  housing  privatization,   management   of rent  controls,   and                                                         
collaboration and cooperation on regulatory issues.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He  highlighted  that  the  addition  of  the military  operations   in                                                         
urban  terrain  (MOUT) range  at JBER  was done  before  the personnel                                                          
impacts  at  Fort Richardson   were  known,  and he  wasn't  sure  what                                                         
effect the force structure adjustment would have.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  displayed   a list   of suggestions   regarding   U.S.  Air                                                         
Force   infrastructure.    He   said   some   of   these   items   were                                                         
identified  during  the  visit to  Eielson  AFB last  year.  The  basic                                                         
message   is  to  keep  the  infrastructure    in  place  with  proper                                                          
maintenance.   The  assets  should   remain  in  place  for   a future                                                          
mission or reuse.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK discussed   new missions  and  mission  expansion.  He  said                                                         
the   U.S.   Army   has  confirmed    its   intent   to   identify   an                                                         
installation   in the  25th  Infantry   Division  for  the  Gray  Eagle                                                         
Unmanned  Aerial  System in  either  Alaska or  Hawaii.  The timeframe                                                          
is FY15  and potentially   the Gray  Eagles for  Fort  Wainwright  will                                                         
be based  either  from Fort  Greeley  or Eielson  Air Force  Base.  The                                                         
Secretary  of  the  Air  Force just  approved   a site  survey  by  the                                                         
Army   and   visited   Eielson   AFB   for   the   purposes   of   that                                                         
evaluation.   He   said  the   message  is   that  Alaska   wants   the                                                         
installation to be in Alaska.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Because   of  the  recent   major  force   structure   adjustment,   he                                                         
suggested  setting  aside  the  recommendation   to  study  options  to                                                         
add Air Cavalry attack elements at Fort Wainwright.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:42:34 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE   ISAACSON  highlighted   that  the  basis  for  moving                                                          
the F-15s  from  Eielson  AFB to JBER  is that  those F-15  facilities                                                          
were  not  demolished.   He further   pointed  out  that  part  of  the                                                         
proposal  is  the possible  demolition   of all  the affected  hangers                                                          
at  Eielson   AFB,  which  then   would  remove   any  possibility   of                                                         
inexpensively   moving  other  missions   to Eielson   AFB  that  might                                                         
share that equipment.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   FAIRCLOUGH    suggested    that   Alaska   make    a  global                                                          
recommendation   to   the  federal   government   to   reevaluate   the                                                         
demolition   of facilities   and  infrastructure   to  make  sure  it's                                                         
for  life and  safety  reasons.  Those  facilities  might  have future                                                          
value even if they have to be relocated.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  said  he agrees  with  the  global  perspective,   but  the                                                         
Air  Force  will  say  it  is  trying  to  meet  the  Air  Force   2020                                                         
objectives     regarding    reductions     of    infrastructure     and                                                         
infrastructure   cost. He  said he'd  add  this as  an action  to  take                                                         
on.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:46:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK  said that  one  of the  recommendations   on the  issue  of                                                         
total  force  is to  look  at the  ability  to do  distance  training.                                                          
There  is huge  potential  for  the  National  Guard  in the  field  of                                                         
intelligence   surveillance  and  reconnaissance  (ISR).  It  is  being                                                         
talked  about  in  terms   of the   RPAs  as  well  as  cyber,  but  it                                                         
allows  the  Air  Force   to have   the  Air  National  Guard  heavily                                                          
engaged   in  contingency   operations    without  having   to  deploy                                                          
personnel  overseas.   He opined  that  these  "reach  back"  missions                                                          
are  fertile  for  expansion  and  Alaska  needs  to make  sure  it  is                                                         
done  as an  additive  mission  not  in lieu  of  something  that's  in                                                         
place.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SADDLER asked whose decision that would be.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  replied   the  decision  would  be  made  by  the  Alaskan                                                          
Command  (ALCOM)   and  the  Pacific   Command  (PACAF)   for  the  Air                                                         
Force  and U.S.  Army Alaska  for  the Army.  The Defense  Information                                                          
Systems Agency (DISA) is tasked with executing the decision.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:48:07 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK reviewed  the  list  of recommendations   for  new missions                                                          
and  mission  expansion  for  the U.S.  Air  Force.  He noted  that  he                                                         
already  discussed  the issue  of a  second squadron  at  Eielson  AFB;                                                         
the  issue  of an  active  association  to  work,  primarily  with  Air                                                         
Mobility   Command,  for  the  168th   Air  Refueling  Wing   (ARW)  at                                                         
Eielson AFB; and a Distributed Common Ground System and RPAs.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:49:11 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK  displayed  recommendations   for  equipment  modernization                                                          
for  both  the  U.S.   Army  and  the  U.S.  Air   Force/Air  National                                                          
Guard.  He  pointed  out  that  these  are  issues  that  the  TAG  and                                                         
installation   commanders  will   work  through  in  conjunction   with                                                         
the  delegation.   The  recommendation    for  the  U.S.  Army   is  to                                                         
examine  procurement  of  additional  material   handling  and loading                                                          
equipment  needs  which  will enhance  U.S.  Army  Alaska  elements  at                                                         
JBER  to  deploy  more   efficiently.  The   recommendations   for  the                                                         
U.S.  Air  Force/Air  National   Guard  include:  active  support   for                                                         
the standardization   of the  3rd Wing's  fleet  to Block  17 standard                                                          
with   extended  range   fuel   tanks;  initiate   action   to  secure                                                          
National  Guard  and Reserve  Equipment  Account  (NGREA)  funding  for                                                         
Synthetic   Aperture  Radar   (SABRE)  Arm   and  Sensor  pods   to  be                                                         
integrated   on  the   176th  Air  National   Guard   Wing  C-130s   to                                                         
enhance  search  and rescue  operations;  and  facilitate  discussions                                                          
for  the  U.S.   Coast  Guard   inclusion  in  purchase   options   for                                                         
combat  rescue  helicopters  in  conjunction  with  the  17th District                                                          
USCG  aviation  modernization.  A recommendation   that  is not listed                                                          
is  to  add  synthetic  aperture   radar  (SABR)  to  the  helicopters                                                          
that  are  already   located  in  Alaska   and  used  for  search   and                                                         
rescue  missions.  This  radar  can  be  moved  from  one  aircraft  to                                                         
another   which   provides   flexibility    for   both  military    and                                                         
civilian search and rescue capabilities.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Responding  to  a question  for further  clarification,   he explained                                                          
that  synthetic   aperture  radar   makes  it  possible   to  see  what                                                         
can't  be seen  with  naked  eye during  the  day  or night  and  under                                                         
adverse weather conditions.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER   questioned  how  the  state  would  advance   these                                                         
recommendations, particularly adding SABRE capabilities.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  offered  to  follow  up  with  a memo  that  identifies   a                                                         
state action for each recommendation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:51:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PIERRE  added that  it's  also  a matter  of  the JASC  Committee                                                          
oversight of DMVA as it works through these issues.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER   recognized  the  presence  of  World  War  II  U.S.                                                         
Army  veteran   Father  Norman   Elliot,  and   thanked  him  for   his                                                         
service.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  concluded  the presentation   emphasizing  the  importance                                                          
of speaking  with  one voice,  laying  out strategies  to  augment  the                                                         
state's   advocacy   for  each   military   installation   in  Alaska;                                                          
provide   updates   and   regularly   engage   DOD   authorizers    and                                                         
appropriators;    expand   community   support   and  engagement    for                                                         
Alaska  installations;   and   monitor  potential   BRAC  legislation,                                                          
Force Structure Adjustments, and DOD budget impacts on bases.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He  reminded  members   that  the  Department   of  Defense  requested                                                          
authorization   for another  BRAC  round  in  2015 and  that  both  the                                                         
Senate  and  House Armed  Services  Committees   took negative  action                                                          
on  the  request.  However,  it's  important   to recognize   that  the                                                         
DOD  will get  either  a  new BRAC  or  the equivalent  through   Force                                                         
Structure   Adjustments.    The  question   is   which   process   best                                                         
enables  the  state  to  articulate   its  message,  have  situational                                                          
awareness   of  what   is  coming,   what  the  impact   is,  and   the                                                         
validity of the arguments.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  KELLY  said Mr.  Pierre  to follow  up  with a  list of  five                                                         
things  the  legislature  can  do  in  terms  of statute   changes  and                                                         
appropriations.   He requested  the  list before  the Governor  starts                                                          
budget deliberations.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERRE agreed to do so.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   TARR asked  if  there would  be  any opportunity   for                                                         
Secretary   Napolitano   to  engage  with  this   committee  when   she                                                         
visits the state.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERRE  explained  that  it would  be a USCG  specific  visit,  but                                                         
there  might  be an  opportunity  for  a meeting  if  she  attends  the                                                         
grand opening of Sector Anchorage.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:58:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH  asked  about  date  and  time  specifics  for  the                                                         
delegation  trip  to  Washington,   D.C.  and who  might  be  asked  to                                                         
attend.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK said  he  would urge  a  September/October  timeframe.   The                                                         
rationale  is  that  the  FY13  legislative  process  allegedly   comes                                                         
to  a close.  That  is  after  the  force  structure  adjustments   and                                                         
before  the  decisions  regarding  the  18th  Aggressor  Squadron   and                                                         
other  basing  actions  that  may  impact  Alaska.  The services   will                                                         
also  have  submitted  their   FY15  budget  execution  statements   to                                                         
the  Defense   comptroller   and  the  Office   of  the  Secretary   of                                                         
Defense will be evaluating potential adjustments.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Regarding   the  composition   of  the  delegation,   he  suggested   a                                                         
representative   from  the  Office   of  the  Governor  or  Lieutenant                                                          
Governor,  the  adjutant  general,   community  leaders  from  each  of                                                         
the   major   installations,    state   legislators,    and   civilian                                                          
leaders.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PIERRE  added   that  he  would  like  to  see  members   of  this                                                         
committee go with the Governor or Lieutenant Governor or both.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK clarified   that before  the  visit he  would  identify  the                                                         
issues  to  cover,  develop  draft  questions,   and  identify  who  to                                                         
see.   The   DOD   will  receive    the   same  information    so   the                                                         
conversations will be more productive.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   SADDLER  recognized   the  presence   of  an  aide   to  the                                                         
Secretary  of  the  Air Force,  an  aide  to Senator  Lisa  Murkowski,                                                          
and an aide to Senator Begich.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:01:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DYSON  emphasized  the  importance   of not  appearing  to  be                                                         
just  another  self-interested   group  lobbying  for  just  their  own                                                         
interests,   because   DOD   in  particular    has  to   consider   the                                                         
national  interest.  He  continued  to say  that  he worries  that  the                                                         
decision  makers  don't think  about  Alaska's  geographic  importance                                                          
due  in large  part  to the  Mercator  projection  maps.  Furthermore,                                                          
they  don't  understand  what's  happening  in  the  Arctic  or Arctic                                                          
transportation.    He  also  questioned    whether  federal   agencies                                                          
communicate and exchange information.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK provided  a  three  point  response.  He acknowledged   that                                                         
it's  hit and  miss on  coordination  and communication.   With regard                                                          
to the  concern  that  decision  makers  in Washington,  D.C.  may  not                                                         
understand  Alaska's  strategic  importance,  he  said that's  part  of                                                         
the reason  for  the recommendation   to engage  an independent   think                                                         
tank  to coherently  validate  Alaska's  importance  and  back it  with                                                         
empirical   data.  Finally,  it  is  important  to  provide   DOD  with                                                         
information   on  why   the  installations   in  Alaska   benefit   the                                                         
Department   of Defense  and  the  down  range  implications   if  they                                                         
aren't there.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:06:18 PM                                                                                                                    
GENERAL  LESTENKOF  agreed  that  the delegation   needs to  bring  the                                                         
strategic  picture  to the  leadership  in Washington,   D.C. and  that                                                         
self-serving lobbying isn't effective.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER  asked  about  the current  status  of  civilian  and                                                         
military relations and communication in Alaska.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERRE  described  General  Hoog's  community  advocacy  group  and                                                         
Mayor  Hopkins'  monthly   meetings  with  mayors  and  the  military,                                                          
and  suggested   that  could  be  expanded   to  a  state  level.   The                                                         
discussions    could  center    on  what's   important,    what   isn't                                                         
working, and what can be done to fix it.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:11:04 PM                                                                                                                    
GENERAL  CANNELOS   commented   that  he  was  part  of  a  delegation                                                          
about  10 years  ago  and  when he  visited  the  Pentagon  he naively                                                          
thought  he would  see a  lot of polar  projection  maps  and a lot  of                                                         
understanding   of  the   area.  That  wasn't   the  case.  He  warned                                                          
against  assuming   that  decision  makers   understand  the  national                                                          
strategic  importance   of Alaska,   and suggested   diligent  work  on                                                         
the tools and how to present them.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH   asked  if  the co-chairs   would  work  with  the                                                         
governor's   office  to  coordinate   a  delegation   and  work  on  an                                                         
orchestrated   event.  She said  she  believes  that  requires  a  pre-                                                         
event  to  have  the members   ready  to give  a  presentation.   Polar                                                         
maps  should   be  included  to  make   it  easier  to  speak   to  the                                                         
advantages of Alaska's strategic importance.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
She  also  discussed  DOD's  procurement   process  and  the  issue  of                                                         
the  military   acquiring   jet  fuel   from  countries   that  aren't                                                          
friendly  to  the U.S.  She  questioned  whether  that  might  be  part                                                         
of the conversation.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:15:08 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HYJEK offered  his  belief  that the  DOD will  say  it's an  open                                                         
competition  and  they  will  take  fuel from  wherever  they  can  get                                                         
it  at the  right  price.  He  suggested   that is  an  issue  for  the                                                         
congressional   delegation  to  take  on,  and  the  state  delegation                                                          
should  focus  on the  strategic  location   of Alaska  for  the  first                                                         
trip.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH  said  she  would  be happy  to  leave  the matter                                                          
to  the congressional   delegation,  but  it's a  sensitive  issue  and                                                         
DOD is closed about having the conversation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER  offered   his belief  that  some  communication   on                                                         
the issues outlined would be good.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ISAACSON   opined   that   it  should   be  discussed                                                          
because   it's  relevant   to  the  value  of   Eielson  AFB.   The  20                                                         
million  gallons  of  jet  fuel  at that  installation   comes  from  a                                                         
small   refinery    in   North    Pole,   and    it's   the   cheapest                                                          
transportation   in the  whole  Air  Force system.   It is  piped  from                                                         
the  Trans-Alaska  Pipeline   System  through  Flint  Hills  and  Petro                                                         
Star  and directly  to Eielson  AFB.  He emphasized  that  Eielson  AFB                                                         
is strategic  to  the national  interest  because  it's at  the top  of                                                         
the world and in a place where fuel is readily accessible.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:19:36 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE   TARR   asked  if   the  fact  that   Alaska  has   the                                                         
highest  number   of  veterans  per  capita  of  any  state   works  to                                                         
Alaska's advantage in terms of facility closures.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PIERRE responded   that has  been mentioned   as part  of the  EIS                                                         
process,   because  veterans   utilize  health   facilities  at   bases                                                         
that  could  potentially   be  closed,  but  that's  not  part  of  the                                                         
discussion.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH  added  that  it certainly  would  be  an item  for                                                         
the  delegation  talk  about  the  importance   of community   and  how                                                         
Alaska   supports  military   personnel   and  families.   Legislation                                                          
that  renews that  commitment  annually  could  be cited  and then  the                                                         
veteran   component   could  be   brought   in  to  support   whatever                                                          
strategy the delegation brings forward.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
She  referenced  Representative   Isaacson's   comment  and  suggested                                                          
that   the  state   may  prefer   a  formalized   process   versus   an                                                         
informal force restructuring process.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PIERRE  highlighted   that  procurement  costs   of the  military                                                          
can be lowered through shared services.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:23:22 PM                                                                                                                    
GENERAL CASE commented [outside microphone range.]                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PIERRE  referenced   General  Case's  comment  about   the Arctic                                                          
and  relayed  that  Stefanie   Moreland  is  leading  the  discussions                                                          
about    Arctic   policy    issues    from   the   executive    branch                                                          
perspective.   She  always  highlights   that  Alaska  is  the  reason                                                          
that the U.S. is an Arctic nation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  asked if  the governor  is  already looking  at  CSIS                                                         
doing an independent review, and if the legislature can help.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. PIERRE replied it's not at that level.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  offered his  view  that it should  be  at the top  of                                                         
the priority list so that Alaska doesn't appear self-serving.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
With  regard  to  the  active  association,  he  asked  if  Alaska  has                                                         
any  advantage   to  highlight  in  the  new  dynamic  of  having   the                                                         
reserves be more active in enforcement, deployment, and support.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. HYJEK  mentioned  the  168th mission  to  support aircraft  to  the                                                         
north,   and  said   it  comes   back  to   the  fact   that  Alaska's                                                          
geography is an asset.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  said  he  was  going  to  be  looking  for  what  the                                                         
legislature   can  do to  make  the  Air  Guard  more  attractive.   He                                                         
also  asked about  cooperation  with  Canada on  SAR missions,  and  if                                                         
there is anything the state can do better.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:26:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  PIERRE  replied  the  state  can't  do  better;  Alaska  is  DOD's                                                         
Arctic  search  and rescue  effort  and there  is weekly  coordination                                                          
with Canada.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL   asked  if that   asset  should  be  put  forward  in                                                         
Washington, D.C.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PIERRE said  the  Pentagon  sees the  search  and rescue  efforts                                                          
as more a civilian need than a State Department concern.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  said  he missed  that  the Air  Mobility  Command  is                                                         
an important factor.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HYJEK  clarified  that  Air  Mobility  Command   is the  decision                                                          
authority  with  regard  to the  approval  of the  active  association                                                          
and  the allocation  of  equipment.  It's  a shared  decision  that  is                                                         
driven  by Air  Mobility  Command.  The delegation  should  definitely                                                          
talk  with them,  but not  necessarily  in conjunction   with the  D.C.                                                         
visit.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:29:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  KELLY  asked  Mr. Pierre  to provide  a  list of  people  who                                                         
have served in Alaska and currently reside in the Pentagon.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PIERRE  said   General  Troy  and  General   Garrett  immediately                                                          
come to mind.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SADDLER  identified  issues  for  the  next meeting:  things                                                          
the    legislature    can    do   to    address    the    short    term                                                         
recommendations;   an update  from  Mr.  Pierre and  Mayor  Hopkins  on                                                         
the  Defense Communities   Association  meeting;  a presentation   from                                                         
Mayor   Hopkins   and  Representative    Isaacson   and   others   from                                                         
Fairbanks  about  their  efforts   to defend   Eielson  AFB;  the  long                                                         
term  actions   the  legislature   should   take   up  going  forward;                                                          
approve   updated  comments   on  the  Eielson  EIS;   and  a  tour  of                                                         
Eielson AFB.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   TARR highlighted  the  U.S. Army  Legislative  Day  at                                                         
JBER.  She  expressed  hope  of a  report  on  Secretary  Napolitano's                                                          
upcoming visit at the next meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:33:58 PM                                                                                                                    
There  being  no  further  business  to  come  before  the  committee,                                                          
Co-Chair  Saddler   adjourned  the  Joint   Armed  Services  Committee                                                          
meeting at 3:33 p.m.                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Hyjek & Fix - Alaska Military Industry Strategic Plan (2).pdf JASC 6/25/2013 1:00:00 PM